Jeff Kreisler in conversation with Rory Sutherland, two huge advocates of behavioural science together in one podcast. Follow @jeffkreislerbs Follow @ogilvyconsultuk Dollars and Sense: How We Misthink Money and How to Spend Smarter available here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dollars-Sense-Misthink-Money-Smarter/dp/006265120X Sponsor SoundLounge soundlounge.co.uk/